We have been living in “COVID” times now for five months, seeing the death toll continue to rise in the United States - currently standing at more than 170,000 deaths. And our country’s other pandemic, racism, is alive and well. Breonna Taylor was murdered by police while sleeping in her home in February and George Floyd was killed, very publicly, by police in May. In this inaugural episode, SooJin and Hannah bring in Daniel Shannon who is a dad of three and a Diversity, Equity & Inclusion expert to share stories and process this moment. We define racial reckoning and go deep on ways to talk with elementary school-aged kids about racism. Thank you for listening and making a commitment to antiracist parenting!
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/5051189
Daniel Shannon's website: https://www.danielshannonspeaks.com/
We have been living in “COVID” times now for five months, seeing the death toll continue to rise in the United States - currently standing at more than 170,000 deaths. And our country’s other pandemic, racism, is alive and well. Breonna Taylor was murdered by police while sleeping in her home in February and George Floyd was killed, very publicly, by police in May. In this episode, SooJin and Hannah bring in Karla Benson Rutten who is a parent of two and a Diversity, Equity & Inclusion expert to share stories and process this moment. We discuss a variety of ways to talk to middle school-aged kids about racism. Thank you for listening and making a commitment to antiracist parenting!
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/5299177
Karla Benson Rutten’s website: https://bensonrutteninnovations.com/
Girl Scouts website: https://www.girlscoutsrv.org/communityengagement
We have been living in “COVID” times now for five months, seeing the death toll continue to rise in the United States - currently standing at more than 190,000 deaths. And our country’s other pandemic, racism, is alive and well. Breonna Taylor was murdered by police while sleeping in her home in February and George Floyd was killed, very publicly, by police in May. In this episode, SooJin and Hannah bring in two racial justice leaders, Lena Francis and Kate Towle, to share stories and process this moment. We discuss a variety of ways to talk to high school kids about racism, the impact of generational trauma, and the importance of getting first-hand knowledge around these issues (vs. just reading a book or article). Thank you for listening and making a commitment to antiracist parenting!
Please note: In this episode, we use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/episodes/5482381
Bad at Love podcast: https://badatlovepodcast.podbean.com/e/episode-45-this-is-not-antiracism-woodstock-with-antiracist-parenting-podcast/
Sweet Potato Comfort Pie website: https://www.sweetpotatocomfortpie.org/
Birds of Peace website: https://www.birdsofpeace.org/
In this episode, SooJin and Hannah speak with Emilia Gonzalez Avalos, the Executive Director of Navigate MN/Unidos MN. Emilia shares her powerful and painful story of coming to the US from Mexico, what life is like for undocumented immigrants living in this country, and the threat she and her children and other Latinx families face everyday because of the targeted attack against them under the current administration. Given the upcoming election, this episode comes at a crucial time, as it provides a specific call to antiracist action in an effort to manifest an antiracist world where every human being is valued and respected. Thank you for listening and making a commitment to antiracist parenting. We hope you will answer the call by the time you finish listening to this heart-wrenching episode.
Warning: This episode may be triggering for some people, as stories of trauma are shared throughout the episode. In addition, there is some profanity around the 1 hour, 2 minute mark.
Note: SooJin and Hannah will be on hiatus for the month of October, as we work to help mobilize people to vote. Our next episode will be available on November 6, 2020.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/episodes/5666281
Navigate MN / Unidos MN website: https://www.navigatemn.org/
In this episode, SooJin and Hannah speak with Crixell Shell, the Assistant Executive Director of the MN Peacebuilding Leadership Institute. Our conversation is both timely and robust. Crixell shares ways she has been talking with her teenage son about the election - instilling critical values around humanity and respect while also supporting him to form his own opinions. She helps us take a big step back as we analyze what is truly dividing us as a country right now and how we can invite folks into conversations about racial reconciliation. We also talk about the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday and ways we can honor and uplift Indigenous people during this time. And finally, we begin to explore the role social media plays in antiracist parenting/caretaking and realize we need to pick that up in another episode!
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/episodes/6513787
MN Peacebuilding Leadership Institute: https://www.mnpeace.org/
Please note: In this episode, we use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color.
In this episode, SooJin and Hannah sit down with Dr. Kathleen Devore, a professor of English at Minneapolis Community Technical College. This is the perfect conversation to kick off a new year and our three-part series. As someone who experienced a challenging childhood, Kathleen understands pain and trauma. She also understands her white privilege and has been working to undo racism for decades. Kathleen talks about growing up and how, as a young adult, her Peace Corps service in South Africa helped bring about a new way of seeing racism in the U.S. Kathleen’s story will help our white audience members to better understand the work that is required, how to navigate personal struggles amidst antiracism efforts, and how to “stay in the room” and keep showing up to end racism.
NOTE: Occasional profanity is used in the episode. We also use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/episodes/7073086
Resources:
Catrice Jackson and Catriceology
Reparations for Descendant of Enslaved Africans (via Home-Ownership)
Caste by Isabel Wilkerson
Learning to be White by Thandeka
Lose Your Mother by Saidiya Hartman
Daring Greatly by Brene Brown
Do It Scared by Ruth Soukup
Follow Black Women (FaceBook Group)
In this episode, SooJin and Hannah talk with Mary Moriarty, former Chief Public Defender in Hennepin County, Minnesota. During our discussion, Mary shares many stories that shaped her antiracism journey while living in Minnesota. Minnesota is considered to be a progressive state; however, it struggles with some of the worst racial disparities in our nation. Her examples clearly illustrate how racism can show up both subtly and explicitly in a state that strongly resists talking about race. Mary talks about how her actions and attitudes around antiracism have evolved over the years, explaining that she speaks up because she wants to live in a place where racism isn’t tolerated. And through her work, Mary is learning first-hand the risks involved when people (of any race) challenge our racist systems and institutions. We conclude that systems are made up of individuals; therefore, we need more individuals disrupting and coordinating antiracist efforts. When we have enough individuals working together, we can achieve the type of society we want to live in - a truly antiracist, inclusive society.
NOTE: We use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/7290151
Resources:
Stamped from the Beginning by Ibram X. Kendi
How to be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi
Dying of Whiteness by Jonathan Metzl
Black-owned gift shops in Minneapolis
Learn more - Mary Moriarty, Hennepin County's top public defender, surprised by suspension
In this final episode of our three-part series, SooJin and Hannah speak with Robin Alpern and Edie Grauer from the Center for the Study of White American Culture. We explore the complexity of white supremacist culture and how racially mixed communities are not necessarily free from racism. Both Robin and Edie talk about being raised by parents who made them aware of race and racism and instilled in them the need to actively resist racism. They share stories about their respective upbringings, how they have come to make antiracism a way of life, and how they have raised their own children to be antiracists. They also talk about their work at “the Center” and how these efforts are contributing to an antiracist and multicultural society - which is better for EVERYONE. We strongly encourage you to check out their upcoming workshops, as well as additional resources listed below!
Please note: We sometimes use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/8020837
Resources:
Center for the Study of White American Culture
Say the Wrong Thing: Stories and Strategies for Racial Justice and Authentic Community by Dr. Amanda Kemp
White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America by Margaret Hagerman
5 Black Comics: What Can White America Do to Help in a Society Built on Systemic Racism? Past and Power: 1967, Edie Grauer | (aferro.org)
Edie Grauer’s Etsy Shop: Handmade jewelry pride boho earrings anklets by EGjewelrycreations (etsy.com)
In this episode, SooJin and Hannah invite Karla Benson Rutten (from episode 2) back to dive deeper into raising multiracial, antiracist children. SooJin opens the conversation by naming the victims of the recent shootings in Atlanta, GA, and Boulder, CO. She shares how these events are impacting her personally as a Korean-American woman, and she explains how white supremacy, a system of dehumanization, contributes to these violent acts. Together we recognize how antiracism helps to connect us through our shared humanity and how community plays a critical role in processing the pain. Our intention for this episode is to envision a multiracial and antiracist society and become better versed in each other’s narratives. Karla, who describes herself as a Black cis-woman, is married to a white man. Together they are raising two biracial, Black children. Karla is one of the most intentional, deliberate, and strategic antiracist parents we know. During the episode, Karla shares the ways in which she “vetted” her white partner before getting involved. She talks about some of the dynamics they had to navigate with their friends and family, what it was like when they became parents, and the racist, sexist stereotypes and biases she had to negotiate because her children didn't necessarily look like her - especially as babies. Karla and her partner have built a strong foundation for their family, which ultimately serves to protect their children. We strongly recommend listening to this episode if you’re in an interracial relationship or are raising biracial or multiracial kids. Karla’s wisdom and experience is profoundly moving and inspiring.
Please note: We sometimes use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color. In this episode we use the term “nibling,” which is a gender-inclusive way of referring to the children of siblings - replacing “niece” or “nephew.”
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/8239226
Resources:
I'm Chocolate, You're Vanilla: Raising Healthy Black and Biracial Children in a Race-Conscious World by Marguerite White
Raising Multiracial Children: Tools for Nurturing Identity in a Racialized
World by Farzana Nayani
Website to learn more about Mentored Troops: www.GirlScoutsRV.org/CommunityEngagement
Ode to George: Reflections on George Floyd’s Memorial Site at 38th & Chicago (Now Accepting Submissions!)
Learning for Justice article: When Bad Things Happen
Medicine Stories podcast (E38) with guest Lyla June
Coming to the Table (Minneapolis chapter): https://comingtothetable.org/organizer/minneapolis/
Quote that was mentioned in the episode: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." - American cultural anthropologist, Margaret Meade
TwinCare Dental on E. Lake Street: http://www.twincaredental.com/
In this episode, SooJin and Hannah engage in a rich discussion with soulmates, Laura and Daren Hill. The conversation flows like a slow, meandering river as we challenge ourselves to slow down and be more like water: adaptable, strong, gentle, powerful, vulnerable, interconnected, and expansive. We break down “knowledge” by getting to know our ledges (boundaries) and defining ourselves on our own terms based in our own culture(s). Laura and Daren share how they lead by example, planting seeds to encourage critical thinking and cultivating their kids’ imaginations through education and art. It is truly a gift to witness the loving, healthy, and respectful relationship Laura and Daren have with each other and the world around them.
Please note: We sometimes use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color. There is some profanity at the 14:09 and 38:35 minute marks.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/8326759
Resources:
https://millionartistmovement.com
https://www.speakingoutcollective.com
https://www.darenscotthill.com
Daren Hill’s Instagram: @probablypicasso
Your Queens, Inc. They are a character company depicting the stories of non-fictional African Kings and Queens.
Creative Storytelling by Speaking Out Collective: The Man, The Serpent and the Fox: https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/speakingoutcollective/episodes/2020-11-22T09_16_29-08_00
Link of Laura Hill’s grandpa shoveling: https://youtu.be/_aWrDxjHDr0 https://bringmethenews.com/news/people-love-st-pauls-101-year-old-snow-shoveler-a-million-times-over https://www.846s.org/
Kindred by Octavia Butler: https://bookshop.org/books/kindred-6268c8de-13c6-4936-b889-3432f8682d05/9780807083697
The Invention of Nature: Alexander von Humboldt’s New World by Andrea Wulf: https://bookshop.org/books/the-invention-of-nature-alexander-von-humboldt-s-new-world-9780385350662/9780345806291
Hunting in Harlem by Mat Johnson: https://www.amazon.com/Hunting-Harlem-Novel-Mat-Johnson/dp/1582344086
The A to Z: Characteristics and Qualities of Being a Revolutionary by Fred Ho: https://smile.amazon.com/Characteristics-Qualities-Being-Revolutionary/dp/1570272824/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=fred+ho+revolutionary&qid=1618254097&sr=8-1
Characteristics of White Supremacist Culture: https://www.showingupforracialjustice.org/white-supremacy-culture-characteristics.html Quote that was mentioned in the episode: “If I didn’t define myself, I would be crunched into other people’s fantasies for me and eaten alive," Audre Lorde said during a speech at Harvard University in 1982.
Dr. Amanda Kemp’s Ted Talk (Racial Justice from the Heart): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF--2vGj7Tg
In this episode, SooJin and Hannah are joined by Dr. Kale Bantigue Fajardo who shares his experience with “trans-local” (long distance) parenting. As a trans Dad living in another state, Kale is particularly committed to loving his 11-year-old daughter, Nia, unconditionally. Through their relationship, Nia is seeing that there are different ways to express love, family, and desire. She is learning how to be antiracist, as well as transpositive and LGBTQ-positive. As a result, Nia is able to define herself for herself. And she is empowered to stand up for herself and others who experience racism or bullying. The work Kale is doing around antiracist parenting is truly beautiful and transformative. And his work continues to grow, now engaging trans, queer, and non-binary youth in healing projects (see ways to connect below).
Please note: We sometimes use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/8556448
Resources:
Last Child in the Woods by Richard Louv
Blue Mind by Wallace Nichols
Tentacle by Rita Indiana
Black Girls Do Bike: https://www.blackgirlsdobike.com/
To make a donation to Kanoa-Karakoa/Salamat Po, please Venmo: @Kale-Fajardo ($45 = 1 snorkeling kit)
Dr. Kale Fajardo’s email address: kfajardo@umn.edu
In this episode, SooJin and Hannah sit down with TV personality Melissa Beck (formerly known as Melissa Howard) from MTV’s reality series The Real World: New Orleans (2000). Melissa found her true calling in motherhood and is raising three mixed-race daughters with her partner, Justin. As an antiracist parent, Melissa is helping her children to “see” difference by immersing them into different - and sometimes uncomfortable - environments and has found food to be a great catalyst for learning. She reflects on her own childhood, growing up in a mixed-race family where colorism was prevalent, and describes how these experiences have shaped her approach to parenting. Melissa is building a truly safe space where her girls can explore their own racial identities and ask lots of questions. Nothing is off limits or “hushed” in their family. Melissa has a strong sense of self, a great sense of humor, and a quiet confidence that all contribute to her focused efforts to raise antiracist kids.
Please note: We sometimes use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/8722112
Resources:
Imperfect Strangers Podcast: https://www.imperfectstrangerspodcast.com/
PJ Library: https://pjlibrary.org/home
In the last episode of Season 1, SooJin and Hannah tap into the power of Sankofa as they reflect back on the season. They discuss the ways in which their lives have been transformed by the podcast, sharing what they’ve learned from our past guests in order to understand their present moment and future possibilities. Hannah shares the process she’s been engaged in with her white family to tackle difficult conversations around race. SooJin teaches us how, by letting go of her fear of losing what she has, she’s gained more than she ever imagined. This conversation will inspire you to tap into your limitless potential by embracing uncertainty over certainty, uncertainty over a false sense of security and stability. Join us in jumpstarting your process of becoming best friends with uncertainty so that you can be FEARLESS in your parenting, work, and relationships.
Please note: We sometimes use the acronym BIPOC, which means Black, Indigenous and/or People of Color. There is some profanity sprinkled (lightly!) throughout the episode.
Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1288241/8850824
Resources:
Headspace App (meditation)
Radical Dharma by Rev. angel Kyodo williams and Lama Rod Owens with Jasmine Syedullah Conversations with James Baldwin Edited by Fred L. Standley and Louis H. Pratt
A Handful of Earth, A Handful of Sky: The World of Octavia Butler by Lynell George
Mutual Aid by Dean Spade
White Tears/Brown Scars by Ruby Hamad
Emergent Strategy by adrienne maree brown
Podcasts that Center Queer Experiences:
Finding Our Way with Prentis Hemphill
Possibilities Podcast with Umang Antariksh Sagar
Call Your Girlfriend - listen to June 2021 episodes created for Pride Month
Resources for Queer Teens (shared by SooJin’s friend and former student):
Wait, What? a comic book guide to relationships, bodies, and growing up
Really sweet site that has lots of articles for teens, etc.: https://www.scarleteen.com/
YAF books:
The Inexplicable Logic of my Life
Queer There and Everywhere: 22 People who Changed the World
This is a recommended sex ed book: http://www.heathercorinna.com/project/s-e-x-second-edition-the-all-you-need-to-know-sexuality-guide-to-get-you-through-your-teens-and-twenties/
https://www.them.us/culture online mag to check out!
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